Jiří has Vivarelli: “I admire Putin. But I don’t “putinofil”!”

— Literární noviny: You claim that your predictions about Ukraine came true. But how? And is it true (and again how), that in Ukraine there are military forces of Russia?

— Jiří has Vivarelli: My words were justified because after the events on the Maidan, I was one of those events have been plunged into despair. Someone from the EU had to go to Ukraine and say there: “Friends, the President cannot be changed with the help of a coup, especially if you want to join the EU!” The West made a mistake that led to the current situation where we have lost the core values, especially safety. Civil war in Ukraine led to the fact that Europe ceased to be safe. Back then I wrote a letter to the Chairman of the ČSSD party, urging to realize what is happening in Ukraine, it makes no sense to stand on the other side — Banderovites, because their position is contrary to our beliefs and experience gained in the times of Czechoslovakia. I wrote an article about the fact that if the situation will escalate, it will end in Georgia. The result? Ukraine is divided. The East likes Russia, and the Western part of the West. I predict the collapse of Ukraine. But the important thing is that from the beginning it was not in Ukraine and in attempts to push Russia away and to humiliate her. The pretext was the refusal of Yanukovych to sign the Association agreement with the EU. This “change” was the start of the events that we are now “well” known. But personally, I assumed that to push Russia fails, and Ukraine will be destroyed.

— That is trump to the presidency, she unwittingly planted Europe?

— Trump broke the plans of Europe. After all, he says, “We’re not going to overthrow the regimes in the world!” Recently published my other article where I write that without the Maidan modern Russia would not be a superpower. Before Maidan it was a regional power. Today it is a superpower, and the world it perceives, however, unfortunately, the hating. America and Britain literally go crazy because of Russia. They provoke panic, saying that tomorrow Putin will push the button. In General, events in the world are developing as I predicted. But there was only one thing wrong. I thought that anti-Russian hysteria will soon die down, everyone will understand what a huge mistake you have made. I would say that today it is thanks to the Trump we see the voltage drop. Objectively speaking, Putin will be the only ally of trump. While he has no other allies, and today he can neither allies in Western Europe. We are still in the acute phase. But if these two policies will remain in power in the next four years, the situation stabiliziruemost. Will leave the posts of other politicians who failed to intervene in Ukraine, for example, Hollande and others. I just explained why support Russia, and let me remind you again: for me Russia — the guarantor of peace on Earth. Russia intervenes where necessary. It helps to resolve the situation and solves the problems of the West. Smooths them. The situation in Syria would not be the same as now, if the West did not support jihadists. Russia is playing a positive role. Putin takes care not to provoke any incidents. And still hate him. And Forbes claim that Putin — the man number one. Even if trump will start to do “nonsense”, you’ll see: in the end, they agree with Putin.

— Why do you think Russia has not recognized the Republic in the Donbass, although previously recognized the political status of Abkhazia and South Ossetia?

I must say that I admire Putin. But I don’t “putinofil”. In my youth I liked Francois Mitterrand, Helmut Schmidt… many of those who today, unfortunately, no longer exists. Nowadays in the Western world I don’t see any policy on their scale. Putin is a genius because he knows exactly when to do it. This is the first. He realizes that he acknowledged the independence of Donbass, immediately violate the Budapest Treaty on the inviolability of borders. In addition, and this is important, it is these regions do not need. Putin advantageous to a modus vivendi: Luhansk people’s Republic and Donetsk people’s Republic remain within Ukraine, and there will be live Pro-Russian mood of the population. Sooner or later (time will play the role of peacemaker), the situation in Ukraine will be settled. Putin does not want a relapse.

And however, dying in the Donbas innocent civilians. If nothing is done, victims will be more. Is that an argument for intervention of some third party, for example, Russia?

— No. Poroshenko is mad that trump is not answering his calls. At the autumn meeting of the UN General Assembly the President of Ukraine met with Clinton, and trump, for him time was not. Poroshenko wants at all costs to conduct their own military operations, to attract attention. His allies, such as Germany, no longer support him in these endeavors. What was the reaction of trump? Absolutely opposite to that what would Poroshenko. That trump will achieve peace in the Russian-Ukrainian border, President of Ukraine, of course, not want to hear. The issue of Ukraine as if exhausted. Perhaps there will ride any Western functionaries of the type Mogherini and other… But it is more likely to go to what will be achieved a balance. In the end, sooner or later there will be elections.

— It may seem that the situation in Ukraine is ripe dozens, at least plus or minus 25, years. Perhaps this operation was prepared longer than it seems at first glance. How would you comment on that a whole generation was brought up in hatred of Russia? But people who have this attitude, speak the same language. They have a common culture, literature. What’s going on?

— I read somewhere that Bismarck once said, saying that Ukraine should be separated from Russia. Ukraine — artificial formation, and that Vaclav Klaus is right. There are many different sense of peoples and Nations. There are absolutely Pro-Russian elements, and the elements of a Pro-Western, tending, if you will, to Poland. However, there is nationalist and semi-fascist elements, which waited all the while their activities are reasonably suppressed. Now, in terms of a sharp conflict they again rush to the fore. So the official Ukraine’s struggle for freedom is a red herring. I admit that some things were prepared, and also agree, for example, that is in the Ukraine (Poland and the Baltic States I do not even speak) the people and groups who are happy that at Russia now under pressure by means of sanctions. This joy with them, share some political groups. Talking about the hawks, filled with hatred. Remember how McCain pushed Saakashvili to the one during the Olympics provoked the conflict in South Ossetia. When was the Maidan, McCain was there again. In addition, before Russia had leaders who are far better than Putin, correspond to the “title” of the dictator. Nevertheless, Putin earned from the West this unflattering name. Ukraine is rather an instrument of pressure on Russia, which the West uses to the full.

— You already touched on this topic: we also have a certain stratum of people who consider Putin a dictator. Where our citizens have taken such a view? A dictator is someone who at least commit genocide and so on. Whether in this case such arguments?

— You know, the question is, who adheres to such opinion. Our society in this respect is also divided. For example, a group of supporters of Havel and the like happens automatically. And if in Russia someone commits suicide, they are in this case called a murderer Putin. In the Czech Republic still hear the echoes of August 21. But Putin enjoys in Russia, 80% of the population. For many years his party has an absolute majority in Parliament. Of course, in Russia a very clear presidential system, a more pronounced and unequivocal than in the US. So Putin can behave as an authoritarian leader. But I’m glad he is…

— In the Czech Republic is home to a large Russian minority, which is characterized by Russophobic sentiments. Russophobia are to be found among Russians abroad and in Russia itself.

— This is normal. I do not know who these people are with us, these former Russians who speak the Russian language. Mitrofanov, Fistein, Romantsov journalists with Russian names. And they all vehemently hate Russia. In the case Romantsova, it’s just funny, because he was supposed to be a neutral analyst. And he hates the Putin regime. For three years, was not confirmed anything of his catastrophic predictions about Putin. And today the President of Russia — the world number one. With regard to the Russian minority, it left Russia for a better life. So they should be taken.

But among the “immigrants from Russia seeking a better life,” there are successful entrepreneurs. They immigrated to us, being the entrepreneurs. Isn’t it strange? They are against Putin because he interferes with their business…

— I’m not as familiar with Russian oligarchs. But, you know, something like that is everywhere… its this part of Russian society mirrors us. In America, too, a part of society hates trump. I could not apply it seriously. Let’s not take this seriously.

— Establish whether the US sort of independence?

— I don’t watch the Russian news, and often look at what is shown on American television, and reading about the events in the original. I am a “specialist” in French, German, Russian, and now English. The atmosphere in the United States is tense to the limit. Absolutely there is no doubt that attempts are being made, mainly by media and bought by demonstrators to block the work — in the best case — or even to overthrow the trump. Maybe impeachment. But this option is better than trying to liquidate trump with the assassination. In America there was a precedent. Thus, States are experiencing the most dangerous period of its existence. And here I return to what has already been said. If trump and Putin in the next four years will be alive and well, the world will change. I am very optimistic. But before the process would be smooth, we will get through very difficult times. Soros, Bilderberg, Davos they will put spokes in the wheel. They will stand in the way.

— The United States placed a huge military presence in Poland and are not in a hurry to withdraw, although trump became President. What if he doesn’t manage to defend their position due to resistance in certain military circles, the CIA and the FBI? Does trump their support?

— I have to Trump the special relationship. When we started out Obama, I’m almost with tears in his eyes listening to his speech. Trump allegedly has no clear idea of what he wants to achieve. I think he is true to himself and his convictions he says for several years. The EU means nothing to him. Therefore, Europe is a mess. Different attitude trump to Putin, he respects the Russian President. Putin is impossible not to respect. He’s a Pro. Trump understands that the EU “Islamic state” (banned in Russia — approx. ed.) did not win. And similarly, not be solved with the EU, a number of other problems. To at least a little to put pressure on China for economic reasons, Trump needs an ally. I am convinced, not only I think so, but Kissinger… well, nothing to do: Putin is our priority. By the way, last year, Kissinger became a member of the Russian Academy of Sciences. Putin thinks ten steps ahead. Trump also impulsive, but in some ways he is adamant. Ukraine has no chances trump will not have to fight for it.

— Allow yourself these Russian hackers allegedly they did the contents of SMS messages, Clinton public. But why nobody is interested in who actually wrote Clinton? The EU lacks critical thinking? Can the European Union do to win the fight against terrorism? As far as we are able to recognize real threats and to confront them?

— There was a time when the European political systems worked politicians who had an opinion. They were able to stand out. Chirac strongly opposed the war in Iraq, and Schroeder. He campaigned on this and won. I voted for the accession to the European Union. But at that time Europe was another. She had her own outstanding figure. Today they are not. Today in the EU there is no leader that would work to the benefit of the EU. It would be enough one strong Frenchman like de Gaulle. All previous German chancellors was better than Merkel. Even Kohl warned her because of her relationship to Russia. The EU is able to discuss duty, the bending of cucumbers… But he incapable of action, for example against terrorism. Last, what failed, the European Union, was the Maidan. It turned out that the EU is unable to cope with the new policy and it is wrong interpretirovat.

But what is the deficit of critical thinking from the Europeans? This is a consequence of something? Maybe the reason is in the consumer lifestyle? Or that we have forgotten its own history, although constantly refer to it?

We, Czechs, have to understand that our world differs from the West. On the one hand, I laugh when I hear that we come to a hundred thousand refugees. Probably not. Czech Republic they just do not care. On the other hand, I know that within 15 years, Western Europe can fully obey the influence of Islam. We, the inhabitants of Central Europe, along with Austria will have to create a “small Union”. I don’t like talking about these things derogatory and would never call a Muslim. But when the barbarians invade our civilization, it destroys our life. The same mistake was made by the Romans. Merkel said, saying that 300 thousand refugees — this is normal. We can do this. Businessmen support it. But for us it means one thing: we need to save our small country. Perhaps together with Slovakia. I am for cooperation with Austria. She has issues, but with refugees it will have to somehow cope. I support the idea of Central European Union of States that would serve as a barrier.

— Do you think that in the new Slavic idea would be something interesting for us? And what about Russia? Its territory is home to a large Muslim minority. If we could take the example of how Russia is able to agree with this minority?

The future lies in new forms of organization of the world, such as the Confederation of States in the Eurasian space. Someone will enter it sooner, someone later. I am sure that Putin, trump, mainly Putin, will solve the issues of Islamic radicalism and terrorism. Once Putin is in the country of 14 million Muslims, he cannot be concept. Nothing else remains. He has already proved that he can establish contact with the Muslims. In contemporary Chechnya, he also enjoys huge support.

— Can any cultural-philosophical idea to help us to encourage immigrants to assimilate without any problems? That will help Europe to save his own face in the coming period?

I’ll say firmly: Europe today offers nothing. But we will survive. The Czechs will survive, because we do not want anyone to take.

At least or first of all, we want the famous shmakovskogo of mind?

— We are different. Let’s not forget that all people are different. We are special people. We have the gift to adapt, and while there are no great ideas. Frankly, in our country, too, will not be successful parties that have defended the national idea. However, I think that to do a particular emphasis on the nation correctly. Some attempts have already been made. In General, in regard to Europe, Putin is right: “you Have no values!” That’s the brutal truth. For example, the trial of a refugee who raped a boy and received a suspended sentence. On what values Europe says? Putin noted that if Europe cannot protect children, then what kind of values does she have? On what values says Europe? In this respect, only now, after the trump, I realized that I did not understand Western Europe. Once our demonstrators rattled the keys, chanting: “We want to go West”. But do we really want in the West that we see today? Europe and its perverted correctness. Something is definitely not right. So we won’t have a chance. The Czechs still hold good. But the West is absolutely perverted. And if he wants someone to impose something like that, then it just won’t work. The 60s are long gone.

— Our TV show series on Russian aggression. It scare the poles and the Baltic countries feel threatened for yourself. Some Czechs react to it and are afraid of Russian intervention. What do you say about this?

Is anything more ridiculous I never heard. But if Poland, the Baltic States, Romania will not be saber-rattling and try at all costs to provoke a conflict with Russia, then I will feel comfortable in the center of Europe. I have no fear, because Russia has no basic reason to attack. The irony is that more dangerous than Russia’s large-scale maneuvers of NATO in Europe.

Europe and NATO provoked destabilization in the world. According to them Russia had to be destroyed. But without Russia, Europe did not have to. Under the Nazis to the death were only one step. Russia not only did not give up, but with Putin getting stronger. Ukraine is desperate. Western Europe does not know what will happen next. It is necessary that the EU and its leaders gradually began to realize that they themselves can not do anything. Okay, customs unions can be saved, but Europeans should understand that we cannot send the troops, to support the jihadists in Syria and to put Ukraine on its head. I’d like a small Union. Look at the foreign Diaspora in different countries such as Holland, Belgium, France, England… There I predict major problem. We need to recover!

— Whether a coalition of US — Russia to defeat ISIS?

— Of course, Yes. It is not only the “Islamic state”. If Putin and trump will remain in power another term, the world will change. He will be fine. We will move to a new world.